… because Firefox just crashed 3 times in a matter of 60 seconds. I am quite certain only one tab caused the crash but since everything is in one process.. everything died, including the hour long flash video (not evil.. I swear, swfdec does youtube – all Free Software) I was watching. This means redownloading everything again which I am not inclined to do. It also includes retyping the email which was brewing on the side in gmail.
For the love of Darwin, can we please put Firefox out of it’s misery. It’s not fast, nor stable. Chrome probably isn’t 100% stable either but at least I have seen that both render faster and survive the death of one tab without killing the rest of my productive environment. Really being more graceful when handling malfunctions is not going to hurt you Mozilla people.. is it?
The web browser is increasingly becoming the platform of choice for many vital tasks such as email and office work, if you crash now we are no longer talking about merely losing a static page of say naked pictures which can be easily restored after a crash. We are talking real work. If you cannot avoid crashing, at least contain the damage.
kernelreloaded said,
October 31, 2008 at 21:00
There is Chrome for Fedora and it is called Midori.
yum install midori
check it out.
davidnielsen said,
October 31, 2008 at 23:10
Which still is a single process browser.. sure it uses webkit but that does not solve the problem, nor does the otherwise excellent epiphany browser. You fundamentally misunderstand the problem Valent.
Just bieng webkit does not make you Chrome. Chrome has a strict security mode (which btw. is very suitable for implementation using SELinux on Linux), one process per site or tab (or one process). Really read up on what Chrome does to aid in not just stability but also containment of problems, it’s much more than a new frontend to webkit.
kernelreloaded said,
November 2, 2008 at 10:03
I have usually over 20 tabs open and I don’t see Firefox crash… but for important applications I use separate firefox process and profile.
For example Gmail:
firefox -P gmail -no-remote
you first need to run “firefox -ProfileManager” and add new profile. This works for Firefox 2.x and 3.x
Hope this helps.
kernelreloaded said,
November 2, 2008 at 10:04
ps. also maybe you can contact midori developers and ask them if they can implement chrome features that you and lots of other people would like to see.
patrick said,
November 22, 2008 at 01:50
I hesitate to use even upgraded versions of Chrome, since my last experience using it (first version) left my computer compromised; have they fixed the security issues beyond all doubt?
davidnielsen said,
November 22, 2008 at 01:59
There will always be security issues, it’s a complex software. They do employ a number of techniques to harden up Chrome but it’s not a miracle.
You cannot fix security “once and for all”, they will continue to harden the codebase as updates are provided and the OS can do some of the work to contain the problem should one occure. E.g. SELinux is fantastic for this job.
So no, and they never will, nor will anyone. They will do what the rest of us do, proactively trying to prevent such issues and actively plugging holes as they are found followed by the issuing of updates.